[Fluxus] Fluxus Digest, Vol 93, Issue 7

Sat Apr 27 21:36:25 PDT 2013

Hi list,

I'm trying to send FLUXUS screen via syphon, but I can't, does anyone have
some working example?

Thank's a lot

bests
Eduardo

2013/1/23 <fluxus-request at lists.pawfal.org>

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>    1. Unsubscribing (Roger Pibernat)
>    2. Fluxus & Syphon (Ted VjBros)
>    3. Re: Fluxus & Syphon (Kassen)
>    4. Re: .fluxus.scm not being read on startup (Rolf Meinecke)
>    5. Re: Fluxus & Syphon (Rolf Meinecke)
>    6. Re: Fluxus & Syphon (Ted VjBros)
>    7. Re: Fluxus & Syphon (Rolf Meinecke)
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> Hi there,
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> Roger
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> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:11:56 +0100
> From: Ted VjBros <tedr56 at gmail.com>
> To: Fluxus <fluxus at lists.pawfal.org>
> Subject: [Fluxus] Fluxus & Syphon
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> Hi the list,
>
> I've been testing the ffgl plugin from syphon in fluxus.
>
> For people who doesn't know what's Syphon is, it's a mac osx system to
> share easily video buffers between applications.
> A Syphon server send the compatible application picture,
> and in the syphon client, you can choose which syphon server to display.
>
> First, for those interested,
> once the dmg package downloaded fromhere  <
> http://syphon-implementations.googlecode.com/files/Syphon%20for%20FreeFrameGL%20Public%20Beta%202.dmg>
>  and mounted, you get a .bundle file.
> You need to open the package and retrieve the syphonserver file (with no
> extension).
> Then if I remenber, copy this file to script folder in fluxus material
> directory.
> (I'm writing this by memory, I don't actually have a mac right now)
>
> I finally managed to run it with render->texture in a pixels primitive
> with syphon ffgl plugin loaded on it.
> With few stability issues, I finally could send the fluxus picture in a vj
> software (Resolume).
> But there is two strange point on this.
>
> 1) The plugin has two parameters. "Name" wich define the sub-name of the
> server visible in the client side.
>     And "Display" to specify if the picture is still display in the server
> side. Here, the pixels primitive.
>     The issue here, the "Name" parameter doesn't seem to change, and in
> the client server's list, the name stay on "Fluxus/Undefined".
>     This is more a problem in case of multi fluxus instances.
>
> 2) I saw this behaviour with screencasting too (on Linux), FLuxus seems to
> "pause" when no content is displayed.
>     In Fluxus, when all contents are destroyed and there is a black
> window; in syphon, the last "contented" frame remains.
>     I don't know if it's a normal behaviour, but I thought we could force
> Fluxus to send one more (black) frame, to have the actual picture.
>
> That's it for know. I hope it was understandable.
> I haven't tested the other configuration, get a syphon buffer in fluxus
> with syphon client. This is the next step.
> I'll try to catch the script and full method of this on my friend's Mac.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
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> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:13:10 +0100
> From: Kassen <signal.automatique at gmail.com>
> To: Ted VjBros <tedr56 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Fluxus <fluxus at lists.pawfal.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fluxus] Fluxus & Syphon
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> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 01:11:56PM +0100, Ted VjBros wrote:
> >  For people who doesn't know what's Syphon is, it's a mac osx system to
> share easily video buffers between applications.
> >  A Syphon server send the compatible application picture,
> >  and in the syphon client, you can choose which syphon server to display.
>
> This is of course really cool. Is this at all comparable to something
> like screen or X-server displays on the Linux side?
>
> Does anyone have any idea whether we could also dump those into video
> textures?
>
> Warning; perversity ahead;
>
> I sometimes boot computers straight into FLuxus with a .xsession that
> looks something like;
>
> jackd -d alsa &
> fluxus -f
>
> It'd be nice to be able to pull up a video texture of a terminal to
> admin such computers. At that point we might even write a simple
> desktop environment in Fluxus.
>
> Don't say I didn't warn about the perversity.
>
> Kas.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:31:38 +0100
> From: Rolf Meinecke <fluxus at jsilence.org>
> To: Fluxus <fluxus at lists.pawfal.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fluxus] .fluxus.scm not being read on startup
> Message-ID: <DBEA66BE-CB67-4BE2-BF06-956C4678391A at jsilence.org>
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> Hej Gabor!
>
> > try one of the 0.18 versions from here: http://fluxus.mndl.hu/
> > some of the newer builds probably require osx 10.7+.
>
> fluxus-0.18-1.20121215git.dmg seems to be too new and crashes.
> fluxus-0.18-1.20121028git.dmg works fine on Snow Leopard.
>
> Please don't drop support for Snow Leopard in future versions. Lion sucks.
>
>
> >> It is in my home directory and permission seem to be fine:
> > strange, what is in your .fluxus.scm? are you sure it is not read?
>
> I am pretty sure. For example I set the pointer to crosshair.
> I can only observe the crosshair pointer when I manually load the file.
>
> > this has been addressed in the newer fluxus osx builds. by default it
> > loads files from ~/Documents/Fluxus.
>
> Yes, thank you. This works now.
>
> >> I am also struggling with loading a file into another one. I'd like to
> >> separate some of my functions into a util.scm file which I'd load into
> > require/provide should do the trick. look into the fluxus scheme file
> > how they do this. they are in
> Fluxus.app/Contents/Resources/collects/fluxus-018/
>
>
> Okay, will look into that.
> Changed the default font to Terminus. Much better...
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -rolf
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> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:31:50 +0100
> From: Rolf Meinecke <fluxus at jsilence.org>
> To: Fluxus <fluxus at lists.pawfal.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fluxus] Fluxus & Syphon
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> Am 23.01.2013 um 16:13 schrieb Kassen:
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 01:11:56PM +0100, Ted VjBros wrote:
> >> For people who doesn't know what's Syphon is, it's a mac osx system to
> share easily video buffers between applications.
> >> A Syphon server send the compatible application picture,
> >> and in the syphon client, you can choose which syphon server to display.
> >
> > This is of course really cool. Is this at all comparable to something
> > like screen or X-server displays on the Linux side?
>
> Hm no.
> Syphon runs locally and allows to very efficiently send video data from
> one application to another by using some graphic card buffer addressing
> vodoo something beyond my grasp. It is virtually lag free.
>
> Unfortunately it is not (yet) possible to send video via network to
> another computer.
> Also mouse positions and keypresses are not sent. Only the video.
>
> But it could be used to screen record fluxus sessions if the whole fluxus
> display would be sent via syphon. There is a free Syphon recorder.
> http://syphon.v002.info/recorder/
>
> Also ist would be possible to include Fluxus sessions into other
> VJ-Software such as CoGe, VDMX Resolume, Module8 and others.
>
> -rolf
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:14:02 +0100
> From: Ted VjBros <tedr56 at gmail.com>
> To: Rolf Meinecke <fluxus at jsilence.org>
> Cc: Fluxus <fluxus at lists.pawfal.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fluxus] Fluxus & Syphon
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> > Also ist would be possible to include Fluxus sessions into other
> VJ-Software such as CoGe, VDMX Resolume, Module8 and others.
> >
> > -rolf
> >
>
> I can confirm that. It's working great despite the last black missing
> frame. The resolution of the imported buffer depend of the size of the
> pixel primitive.
>
> >> Does anyone have any idea whether we could also dump those into video
> >> textures?
>
> I think it's possible with the syphon client ffgl plugin in a pixels
> primitive. It get a syphon server buffer.
> And use it as a texure with pixels->texture.
>
> Ted
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:17:40 +0100
> From: Rolf Meinecke <fluxus at jsilence.org>
> Cc: Fluxus <fluxus at lists.pawfal.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fluxus] Fluxus & Syphon
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> Am 23.01.2013 um 18:14 schrieb Ted VjBros:
> >>> Does anyone have any idea whether we could also dump those into video
> >>> textures?
> >
> > I think it's possible with the syphon client ffgl plugin in a pixels
> primitive. It get a syphon server buffer.
> > And use it as a texure with pixels->texture.
>
> If you could maybe post a minimal working example?
> That would be great!
>
> -rolf
>
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